#IBC18 Plant taxonomy in the 21st century

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Tweets from one of the keynote symposia at IBC2011.

We have tweets from one symposium Plant taxonomy in the 21st century, chaired by Sandra Knapp and Kevin Thiele.

Kevin Thield: Pushes Darwin aside and goes straight to Linnaeus in introducing Keynote Session on Plant Taxonomy in 21st C. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Thiele introducing plant taxonomy keynote. Linnaeus doing "big science". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Kevin Thiele introducing plant taxonomy in the 21st century. First up is Sandy Knapp. #ibc18
fembotanist
July 28, 2011
#ibc18 Keynote session: plant taxonomy in the 21st century. tweeps have had coffee. no prisoners will be taken.
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Thiele: keynote speakers (Knapp, Raven, Kress) are "new Linnaeans". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
e-pub and nomenclature hero, Sandy Knapp, kicking off with with coascent global communities of plant taxonomists. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Sandra Knapp (Natural Hist Museum): a collaboration with Bill Baker (RBG Kew) – 2 institutions assumed to be at each other’s throat! #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Knapp: do we need a French Revolution in taxonomy? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
#ibc18. Sandy Knapp calling for a revolution in plant taxonomy. #auxbarricades
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Knapp: who are we doing taxonomy for? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Sandy Knapp: Who are taxonomy ‘user communities’? School kids, local communities, other scientists, or other taxonomists? [++] #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Knapp: Three parliamentary reviews of taxonomy & systematics in UK since 1992. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: In UK, 600 do identification, 100 phylogeny and 400 description. These are people who self-select at taxonomists. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Sandra Knapp: Most taxonomists in UK self-identify as doing identification or species descriptions, few phylogeny. #ibc18
EveEmshwiller
July 28, 2011
Knapp: we know there are too few taxonomists around. (A good systematist is hard to find.) #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: "there are not enough taxonomists arround!" #heyyoudidnthearlinnaeuscomplaining #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
And he had to describe the whole world! RT @Jim_Croft Knapp: "…not enough taxonomists arround!" #heyyoudidnthearlinnaeuscomplaining #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: need a revolution to speed up description of life-on-earth. Me: Quality control critical (no renaming!) Can DNA be part of QC #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Knapp: taxonomy as a cottage industry. work all your life. and produce a monograph. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Knapp: No statistical difference between no of authors of systematics papers and those for physics. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: Hicks Boson mentioned again (twice) at the #ibc18 (I made the first, in a tweet earlier in the week – so long ago!).
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Ah, Kew/BM rivalry lives at #ibc18! MT @TimEntwisle: Knapp: Hicks Boson mentioned again (I made the first, in a tweet earlier).
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
D’oh! RT @Jim_Croft: Kew/BM rivalry lives #ibc18! MT @TimEntwisle: Knapp: Hicks Boson mentioned again (I made the first, in a tweet earlier)
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Taxonomists: Maybe we aren’t such introverts after all? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
#ibc18 RT @Jim_Croft: Knapp: comparing Higgs-Boson chasers with the #icbn plant name jockeys. #bigbotany
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Sandy Knapp: How do taxonomists organise and market ourselves to the rest of the scientific community? #ibc18
fembotanist
July 28, 2011
Knapp: Herbaria as big infrastructure just like Large Hadron Collidor – need to consider plant taxonomy as "big science" #ibc18
EveEmshwiller
July 28, 2011
Knapp: Taxonomy is big science. Needs lots of resources/collections, ME: and very long term support. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Collections are big infrastructure and may be compared with physics research infrastructure.-Sandy Knapp #ibc18
danieljmurf
July 28, 2011
Knapp shows official picture from nomenclature section. Nyargh! #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: "collections are big infrastructure". Maybe if we renamed herbaria something like The Large Plant Repositories? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: GBIF represents a distribution of bird watchers. #ibc18
EveEmshwiller
July 28, 2011
Knapp: plants very poorly represented in #GBIF. Most are animals, most birds. #gbifisthedistributionofbirdwatchers. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Knapp: What makes’community’? Cohesive, comp interests, motivated, diff levels of effort, work cooperatively (tech capacity etc) #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Knapp: what makes a community? motivation, variability of effort, capacity to work collaboratively, inducements, etc.. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Sandra Knapp @ #ibc18 We need a revolution in taxonomy: “big science," large information networks, user communities, and proper incentives.
JChrisPires
July 28, 2011
Knapp: taxonomic community need to organise and work for common goals. Unite! And bribes help. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
I think they are called ‘inducements’ MT @IBC11: Knapp: taxonomic community need work for common goals. Unite! And bribes help. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Yeah, but "bribes" has fewer characters and *I* don’t have a keyboard. RT @Jim_Croft I think they are called ‘inducements’ #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp mentions The Plant List as a "community of communities". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp:: quotes "science at least that is good is only done because people enjoy it" So true. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Knapp: we need to make this fun. as in enjoyable. not #botanyasajoke
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
inspiring stuff from Sandy Knapp! #ibc18
fembotanist
July 28, 2011
Knapp finishes, with thanks to Solanum for giving her perspective because it is "large, complex and difficult". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Well @Jim_Croft we were obviously at different talks. Our last tweets were not word-for-word perfect. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Plant taxonomy in the 21st century. Peter Raven on beyond The Plant List. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Hooray for Peter Raven – avoiding Death-by-Powerpoint. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Now: Peter Raven. Get your buckets ready… #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Peter Raven decribing the state of taxonomy in a populous word. David Mabberly putting his head in a bucket. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Raven: we need to grow plants and store seeds ‘ferociously’. #auxbarricades #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Peter Raven: Understand ecosystems, which Linneaus would have done if he’d understood ecosystems [I think I missed something here] #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Raven: the Plant List combines databases from Kew and Missouri. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: Kew and Missouri work together. Not like that nasty Kew/Natural History Museum relationship I’ve heard about 🙂 #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Raven: more than a quarter of the PL names not properly synonymised yet. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: #bhlib attempting to capture all the literature of systematic biology. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: linking plant taxonomy with conservation. #gspc #ibc18 … and with #climatechange #headbucket
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Sudden silence made me think wifi was down. I guess ravens don’t tweet. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: Plant species differ in their expectable period of existence on Earth #ibc18 Leads on to #saveanita or at least #saveamborella
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Raven: maybe concept of hot-spots isn’t so hot for plants. IUCN "stamp collecting". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: questioning biodiversity hot spots and equal weighting of each spp might work for vertebrates, but not for plants. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Peter Raven #ibc18: IUCN “stamp collecting approach” for plant conservatin needs to be rethought — not all species or “hotspots” are equal.
JChrisPires
July 28, 2011
Raven: plants and places are not equal so assigning similar weights for conservation probably not appropriate. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
John Kress: DNA barcoding and the future of taxonomy. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
J Kress on supermarket taxonomy (barcoding) but in nice way (Just mentioned filling cabinets with specimens, like filling shelves) #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Kress: peak of publication of plant names around the turn of the last century. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
John Kress, on DNA barcoding as the future of taxonomy, ecology, species discovery, #lifetheuniverseandeverything #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: As (plant) botanists we can finish the task of description then get to the fun part of knowing the species, and conservation. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Kress: how can new technology make process of taxonomy faster and more efficient? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Kress: can finish task naming plants ME: we’ve heard the peak of extinction rate now; Are we also at peak of speciation? How to know? #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
.@Pathh1 The problem is not that there are less to describe, but that we are describing less. #taxonomyfail #jaccusedna #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: shout-out for @PhytoKeys and Leafsnap http://leafsnap.com/ #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Kress: shouts out fairly loudly for Leafsnap. Started as something to help him (John) but realised bigger need. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Leafsnap iPhone app identifies leaves with image recognition technology.. Even has a game component! #ibc18
fembotanist
July 28, 2011
Mapping function too! MT @fembotanist Leafsnap iPhone app IDs leaves with image recognition technology.. Even a game component! #ibc18
EveEmshwiller
July 28, 2011
games? who said this was supposed to be fun? oh… @SandyKnapp did! MT @fembotanist: Leafsnap … Even has a game component! #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: Leafsnap iPhone application for plant identification from leaf photograph. I’ve got an Android though. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Will encourage Kew & NZ Network to make their (soon to released) apps for Android! #advertisement RT @Pathh1: Leafsnap/not Android #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Kress, drawing totally erroneous conclusions on the steadily declining rate of species description. totally. #effectcausedisconnect #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: shoutout for LeafSnap as a personal tool that got out of hand. Then on to plant DNA as a forensic tool. #csiplants #csibotany #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: Neat applications of barcoding – ecology of tree roots, plant herbivore diets. Nice. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Kress: DNA can be used to map distributions of plant root systems. underground story different to aboveground. #thisissocool #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress @ #ibc18 Able to identify not only insects using barcoding, but also the species in the gut within a single run
ProteinUniverse
July 28, 2011
Camera battery nigh-critical. Linnaeus didn’t have to work under conditions like this. #tantrum #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Kress: using DNA to decode the phylogenetic signal and evolutionary diversity in ecosystems. plots in all nonfrozen continents. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: "Mean, pairwise, phylogetetic distance" – hey! @SandyKnapp said we all had to be nice and all come together to have fun! #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: Gently notes we need only generate information needed to answer questions: ie may not need the genome of all life on planet. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
John Kress @ #ibc18 promotes LeafSnap and 3 loci DNA barcoding – what about next-generation sequencing #NGS ? At least they have the DNA…
JChrisPires
July 28, 2011
Thiele: Linnaeus had a problem with hubris. Understatement of #ibc18?
IBC11
July 28, 2011

…and that, I think, concludes the morning symposia. Later tweets will follow. The convention centre is looking interesting today.

Convention Centre #ibc18 http://t.co/61sUXCy
annasyme
July 28, 2011


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