#IBC18 Plant taxonomy in the 21st century

Tweets from one of the keynote symposia at IBC2011.

We have tweets from one symposium Plant taxonomy in the 21st century, chaired by Sandra Knapp and Kevin Thiele.

Kevin Thield: Pushes Darwin aside and goes straight to Linnaeus in introducing Keynote Session on Plant Taxonomy in 21st C. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Thiele introducing plant taxonomy keynote. Linnaeus doing "big science". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Kevin Thiele introducing plant taxonomy in the 21st century. First up is Sandy Knapp. #ibc18
fembotanist
July 28, 2011
#ibc18 Keynote session: plant taxonomy in the 21st century. tweeps have had coffee. no prisoners will be taken.
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Thiele: keynote speakers (Knapp, Raven, Kress) are "new Linnaeans". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
e-pub and nomenclature hero, Sandy Knapp, kicking off with with coascent global communities of plant taxonomists. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Sandra Knapp (Natural Hist Museum): a collaboration with Bill Baker (RBG Kew) – 2 institutions assumed to be at each other’s throat! #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Knapp: do we need a French Revolution in taxonomy? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
#ibc18. Sandy Knapp calling for a revolution in plant taxonomy. #auxbarricades
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Knapp: who are we doing taxonomy for? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Sandy Knapp: Who are taxonomy ‘user communities’? School kids, local communities, other scientists, or other taxonomists? [++] #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Knapp: Three parliamentary reviews of taxonomy & systematics in UK since 1992. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: In UK, 600 do identification, 100 phylogeny and 400 description. These are people who self-select at taxonomists. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Sandra Knapp: Most taxonomists in UK self-identify as doing identification or species descriptions, few phylogeny. #ibc18
EveEmshwiller
July 28, 2011
Knapp: we know there are too few taxonomists around. (A good systematist is hard to find.) #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: "there are not enough taxonomists arround!" #heyyoudidnthearlinnaeuscomplaining #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
And he had to describe the whole world! RT @Jim_Croft Knapp: "…not enough taxonomists arround!" #heyyoudidnthearlinnaeuscomplaining #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: need a revolution to speed up description of life-on-earth. Me: Quality control critical (no renaming!) Can DNA be part of QC #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Knapp: taxonomy as a cottage industry. work all your life. and produce a monograph. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Knapp: No statistical difference between no of authors of systematics papers and those for physics. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: Hicks Boson mentioned again (twice) at the #ibc18 (I made the first, in a tweet earlier in the week – so long ago!).
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Ah, Kew/BM rivalry lives at #ibc18! MT @TimEntwisle: Knapp: Hicks Boson mentioned again (I made the first, in a tweet earlier).
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
D’oh! RT @Jim_Croft: Kew/BM rivalry lives #ibc18! MT @TimEntwisle: Knapp: Hicks Boson mentioned again (I made the first, in a tweet earlier)
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Taxonomists: Maybe we aren’t such introverts after all? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
#ibc18 RT @Jim_Croft: Knapp: comparing Higgs-Boson chasers with the #icbn plant name jockeys. #bigbotany
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Sandy Knapp: How do taxonomists organise and market ourselves to the rest of the scientific community? #ibc18
fembotanist
July 28, 2011
Knapp: Herbaria as big infrastructure just like Large Hadron Collidor – need to consider plant taxonomy as "big science" #ibc18
EveEmshwiller
July 28, 2011
Knapp: Taxonomy is big science. Needs lots of resources/collections, ME: and very long term support. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Collections are big infrastructure and may be compared with physics research infrastructure.-Sandy Knapp #ibc18
danieljmurf
July 28, 2011
Knapp shows official picture from nomenclature section. Nyargh! #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: "collections are big infrastructure". Maybe if we renamed herbaria something like The Large Plant Repositories? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp: GBIF represents a distribution of bird watchers. #ibc18
EveEmshwiller
July 28, 2011
Knapp: plants very poorly represented in #GBIF. Most are animals, most birds. #gbifisthedistributionofbirdwatchers. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Knapp: What makes’community’? Cohesive, comp interests, motivated, diff levels of effort, work cooperatively (tech capacity etc) #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Knapp: what makes a community? motivation, variability of effort, capacity to work collaboratively, inducements, etc.. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Sandra Knapp @ #ibc18 We need a revolution in taxonomy: “big science," large information networks, user communities, and proper incentives.
JChrisPires
July 28, 2011
Knapp: taxonomic community need to organise and work for common goals. Unite! And bribes help. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
I think they are called ‘inducements’ MT @IBC11: Knapp: taxonomic community need work for common goals. Unite! And bribes help. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Yeah, but "bribes" has fewer characters and *I* don’t have a keyboard. RT @Jim_Croft I think they are called ‘inducements’ #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp mentions The Plant List as a "community of communities". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Knapp:: quotes "science at least that is good is only done because people enjoy it" So true. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Knapp: we need to make this fun. as in enjoyable. not #botanyasajoke
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
inspiring stuff from Sandy Knapp! #ibc18
fembotanist
July 28, 2011
Knapp finishes, with thanks to Solanum for giving her perspective because it is "large, complex and difficult". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Well @Jim_Croft we were obviously at different talks. Our last tweets were not word-for-word perfect. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Plant taxonomy in the 21st century. Peter Raven on beyond The Plant List. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Hooray for Peter Raven – avoiding Death-by-Powerpoint. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Now: Peter Raven. Get your buckets ready… #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Peter Raven decribing the state of taxonomy in a populous word. David Mabberly putting his head in a bucket. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Raven: we need to grow plants and store seeds ‘ferociously’. #auxbarricades #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Peter Raven: Understand ecosystems, which Linneaus would have done if he’d understood ecosystems [I think I missed something here] #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Raven: the Plant List combines databases from Kew and Missouri. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: Kew and Missouri work together. Not like that nasty Kew/Natural History Museum relationship I’ve heard about 🙂 #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Raven: more than a quarter of the PL names not properly synonymised yet. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: #bhlib attempting to capture all the literature of systematic biology. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: linking plant taxonomy with conservation. #gspc #ibc18 … and with #climatechange #headbucket
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Sudden silence made me think wifi was down. I guess ravens don’t tweet. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: Plant species differ in their expectable period of existence on Earth #ibc18 Leads on to #saveanita or at least #saveamborella
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Raven: maybe concept of hot-spots isn’t so hot for plants. IUCN "stamp collecting". #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Raven: questioning biodiversity hot spots and equal weighting of each spp might work for vertebrates, but not for plants. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Peter Raven #ibc18: IUCN “stamp collecting approach” for plant conservatin needs to be rethought — not all species or “hotspots” are equal.
JChrisPires
July 28, 2011
Raven: plants and places are not equal so assigning similar weights for conservation probably not appropriate. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
John Kress: DNA barcoding and the future of taxonomy. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
J Kress on supermarket taxonomy (barcoding) but in nice way (Just mentioned filling cabinets with specimens, like filling shelves) #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Kress: peak of publication of plant names around the turn of the last century. #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
John Kress, on DNA barcoding as the future of taxonomy, ecology, species discovery, #lifetheuniverseandeverything #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: As (plant) botanists we can finish the task of description then get to the fun part of knowing the species, and conservation. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Kress: how can new technology make process of taxonomy faster and more efficient? #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Kress: can finish task naming plants ME: we’ve heard the peak of extinction rate now; Are we also at peak of speciation? How to know? #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
.@Pathh1 The problem is not that there are less to describe, but that we are describing less. #taxonomyfail #jaccusedna #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: shout-out for @PhytoKeys and Leafsnap http://leafsnap.com/ #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Kress: shouts out fairly loudly for Leafsnap. Started as something to help him (John) but realised bigger need. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Leafsnap iPhone app identifies leaves with image recognition technology.. Even has a game component! #ibc18
fembotanist
July 28, 2011
Mapping function too! MT @fembotanist Leafsnap iPhone app IDs leaves with image recognition technology.. Even a game component! #ibc18
EveEmshwiller
July 28, 2011
games? who said this was supposed to be fun? oh… @SandyKnapp did! MT @fembotanist: Leafsnap … Even has a game component! #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: Leafsnap iPhone application for plant identification from leaf photograph. I’ve got an Android though. #ibc18
Pathh1
July 28, 2011
Will encourage Kew & NZ Network to make their (soon to released) apps for Android! #advertisement RT @Pathh1: Leafsnap/not Android #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Kress, drawing totally erroneous conclusions on the steadily declining rate of species description. totally. #effectcausedisconnect #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: shoutout for LeafSnap as a personal tool that got out of hand. Then on to plant DNA as a forensic tool. #csiplants #csibotany #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: Neat applications of barcoding – ecology of tree roots, plant herbivore diets. Nice. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
Kress: DNA can be used to map distributions of plant root systems. underground story different to aboveground. #thisissocool #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress @ #ibc18 Able to identify not only insects using barcoding, but also the species in the gut within a single run
ProteinUniverse
July 28, 2011
Camera battery nigh-critical. Linnaeus didn’t have to work under conditions like this. #tantrum #ibc18
IBC11
July 28, 2011
Kress: using DNA to decode the phylogenetic signal and evolutionary diversity in ecosystems. plots in all nonfrozen continents. #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: "Mean, pairwise, phylogetetic distance" – hey! @SandyKnapp said we all had to be nice and all come together to have fun! #ibc18
Jim_Croft
July 28, 2011
Kress: Gently notes we need only generate information needed to answer questions: ie may not need the genome of all life on planet. #ibc18
TimEntwisle
July 28, 2011
John Kress @ #ibc18 promotes LeafSnap and 3 loci DNA barcoding – what about next-generation sequencing #NGS ? At least they have the DNA…
JChrisPires
July 28, 2011
Thiele: Linnaeus had a problem with hubris. Understatement of #ibc18?
IBC11
July 28, 2011

…and that, I think, concludes the morning symposia. Later tweets will follow. The convention centre is looking interesting today.

Convention Centre #ibc18 http://t.co/61sUXCy
annasyme
July 28, 2011